Outcast – Reasons Being
By: David E. Gehlke
Pay no mind to their relatively banal name – France’s Outcast (not to be confused with the American hip-hop group OutKast) are a beacon of light in the fast-fading djent scene. In fact, even calling these lads “djent” might be a direct insult to their kinetic brand of progressive metal that melds None-era Meshuggah with jarring technical bits and flighty melodies. On their second full-length Awaken the Reason, Outcast creates enough real estate for themselves to go in any direction they please, as evidenced by excellent tunes like “Man’s Last Failure” and “Fallen Years,” both of which exemplify a band with far more intangibles than their genre tag association would allow.
With some significant buzz and critical hype forming around the band, we snagged guitarist and founding member Nicolas Soulat for a round of queries regarding Outcast’s slow rise from French metal obscurity to where they are today – on the cusp of becoming the next Textures. Read on and enjoy…
Blistering.com: You formed in 1998, but things really didn’t start to happen for you until 2002 or so. Can you describe some of the struggles you went through?
Nicolas Soulat: The struggles really began when we first signed with a label. This first movement was essential because every band needs a structure to work with him and support his motivations. When you work on your music, you want to promote it, to share with as many people as possible. But this process leads you into hard times, you have to be present everywhere, every time and today your music even if it’s the best, not constitutes a self-sufficient point to claim a good seat into metal lands. You have to be a concept. This is exactly what we’re struggling [with] at this time, we want to replace the music where it belongs in the first place and build a solid image around it. Today, Listenable records gives us the best tools and opportunities to do so.
Blistering.com: When you started, the French metal scene wasn’t nearly as strong as it is now. How tough was it to build a following and gain momentum in the early portions of your career?
Soulat: We surely have a benefit with this wonderful “French metal” wave because people now are strengthened with their opinions when they listen to good metal music. They can say “Oh they are French! I know French metal is good” Back to old times, this was not so obvious even if the music was good, people could not backup their feelings with any kind of trend or particular French metal qualities so they were maybe more difficult or less indulgent. Anyway, you have to make good and original music to gain credibility, this “French touch” stuff opens some doors and awakens people’s curiosity and that’s a very good thing for us because we can share our visions with more and more fans especially now.
Blistering.com: In regards to the French scene, there appears to be a strong wave of newer bands including yourself, Hacride, and Gojira. What does this say about the future of French metal?
Soulat: The future seems to offer wondrous perspectives because a maximum of people give now interest to the music and follow the news thanks to those wonderful bands (Gojira, Hacride, Loudblast, etc.). As a French group, we’ll continue to promote a certain vision of Metal and try to carry the flame of experimentation, power and groove. That’s what we’re trying to do with Awaken the Reason.
Blistering.com: As for the present, you’re releasing Awaken the Reason when the djent movement is in full-swing. Any concerns about being lumped in with these bands?
Soulat: We’re not so close with this movement as a “progressive death metal band” but we surely use those codes in our music. We love Meshuggah, Sikth or Textures and this seems hard today to write strong metal music without including some groovy polyrhythmic stuffs. But we also keep in mind that those codes exist way before Periphery or even Meshuggah, when you listen to Yes or King Crimson. Sure, the work sounds a little bit dated and not so powerful, but the ideas where already there.
To me, I think the most interesting thing about this djent wave is the use of melodies between rough and aggressive concepts. And when I say melodies I even include emo stuffs or smarty pop tricks (discarding of course shitty commercial stuffs). Devin Townsend with another touch knows how to do that kind of mix since Strapping Young Lad, but today the bands all have more and more technical abilities and propose to reunite all those concepts with the strongest production. For instance, we love Periphery, Chimp Spanner, Monuments or Tesseract, and we can say they had some influence on our music.
Blistering.com: Along those lines, is there a proper tag for Outcast? You jump all over the place on the new album…
Soulat: Our main guideline is to keep our music organic and warm. That’s another point which distinguishes us from the djent scene. We surely share the technical approach with this complex songwriting and polyrhythmic influences but we try to push the concept further away using odd harmonies and replace the guitar work not just with low and powerful strikes but also using progressive influences such as Dream Theater or Steve Vai. We also love vintage stuff and this dirty roughness you could find in Converge or in Strapping Young Lad. In that way, we maybe provide warmer tunes and rock ‘n’ roll stuffs, trying to keep those tricks insidiously hidden inside the riffs and the production of Awaken the Reason.